The Swan Dive with Meg Swanick
The Swan Dive with Meg Swanick
🎙️ Henry Bushnell of Yahoo Sports

🎙️ Henry Bushnell of Yahoo Sports

MLS, Messi, Open Cup, USMNT, USWNT

Henry Bushnell is a soccer and feature writer for Yahoo Sports, doing amazing work covering soccer in the US at all levels. Henry was exceptionally generous with his time as we discussed MLS, Messi, the US Open Cup, USMNT and USWNT for over an hour.

This was recorded on Friday the 19th so some of the references may be slightly dated. I was on the road in the rust belt last week for some non-soccer related things, so do forgive me the slight delay in posting this.


  • Getting into soccer, getting into sports writing

  • The fandom path

MLS, Messi 6:15 - 21:03

  • The Messi effect

  • Apple TV+

  • Miami leads the Supporters Shield race. Mentioned in the pod they’d just played Kansas City, they’ve since also beaten Nashville and New England

  • Is Miami bossing the league? (Related article)

  • Assessing the Miami Champions Cup loss to Monterrey (2-5 on aggregate) and talking MLS roster rules

  • MLS becoming a top global league vs a glacial pace of change

US Open Cup, USSF, Major League Soccer 21:03 - 32:00

  • Why did MLS try to ditch US Open Cup?

  • Who was calling the shots at US Soccer?

  • How USSF and MLS work together

  • Henry’s article, ‘Who controls American soccer?

USMNT 32:00 - 50:00

  • Big picture assessment of where the USMNT is post-Nations League trophy

  • Are we locked in with Gregg through 2026, no matter what happens this summer?

  • Expectations for the group: US, Uruguay, Panama, Bolivia

  • If they get out of the group, can they get something from Brazil or Colombia (should these be the two)

  • Starting XI

  • Gio Reyna (this was recorded the week following Reyna’s first start for Forest, which took place against Wolves on April 13. Reyna has since started a second game but played just 53 minutes and come off the bench against Man City last weekend for 16)

USWNT 50ish min - FIN

  • Evolutions since Vlatko departed

  • What went wrong in ‘23

  • The 18 player roster

  • The Olympic opponents and USWNT expectations

  • Pressure

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The Swan Dive with Meg Swanick
The Swan Dive with Meg Swanick
Interviews, analysis & stories from the road with US National Soccer Team journalist and life-long nomad, Meg Swanick